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Applications / Re: Does Lotus Smartsuite 9.8 work with Odin in OS2?
« Last post by JTA on Today at 12:12:02 pm »
Not sure I fully understand all software you intend to run of the older PC w/ 4GB ram, running ArcaOS ...

An ArcaOS dev indicated that it would run perfectly fine in about 1GB of ram, leaving the remainder for your other goals. Get this installed, and image it with backup software of some kind for quick reinstall/recovery from successive testing efforts that might cause grief.

From here, you can then experiment with any number of OS/2 apps, including ODIN itself. Lots of excellent info on ODIN is at:

https://ecsoft2.org/odin

and towards the bottom is a series of articles about getting win32 apps "installed" under ODIN.

Finally, layer on SmartSuite within ODIN, and see if that works to your satisfaction.

So, ArcaOS, then ArcaOS + ODIN, and finally ArcaOS + ODIN + SmartSuite. If SmartSuite fails to satisfy, perhaps the older PC running ArcaOS is still useful for many other explorations.

Hope this helps ...
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Applications / Re: Klickstartmenu
« Last post by JPM on Today at 07:34:32 am »
What exactly are you dragging, and where are you dropping it?
I can move the Launch Pad desktop object around freely here, and even drag it into Klickstartmenu’s Quick Launch bar, without any crash.
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Applications / Re: Klickstartmenu
« Last post by David Graser on Today at 05:06:20 am »
Steven, I think this has to due to the conflict between Klickstartmenu and Launch Pad by Andrey Vasilkin.  I have Klickstartmenu running and then I install Launch Pad.  I begin to drag its installed iconto  where I want it and the system goes boom (all icons disappear and the systrem locks up.  Do not know whey Klickstartmenu is recording the trap.

Where does one install the debug symbols to?
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Applications / Re: Klickstartmenu
« Last post by Steven Levine on Today at 03:35:46 am »
Hi all,

Both of David's 2026-09-03 and 2026-09-05 exceptq reports are the same trap
at DrgDeleteDraginfoStrHandles+14

If debug symbols had been installed the head of call stack would report.


   EBP     Address    Module     Obj:Offset    Nearest Public Symbol
 --------  ---------  --------  -------------  -----------------------
 Trap  ->  1F8A0BBC   PMCTLS    0002:000B0BBC           DrgDeleteDraginfoStrHandles+14
                                                        ida 000B0BBC + 1B5C0000 = 1b670bbc

 0004F4D0  1FBF97C5   PMWP      0001:000497C5           CnrOwner_EndedTask+D
                                                        ida 497C5 + 1BEA0000 = 1bee97c5

 0004F530  1FBBBFCC   PMWP      0001:0000BFCC           WinDefFolderWndProc+1C
                                                        ida BFCC + 1BEA0000 = 1beabfcc

which reminds me it may be time for the end-users to do a bit of muscle memory training.  When you capture an exceptq report that is missing symbol decode, your first thought should be I really should try to install the missing debug symbols.  This helps the developer and in turn helps you because there's a better chance the developer can understand and resolve your issue.

Many of the symbols you might need can be found on your install media in the \OS2IMAGE\DEBUG\SYMBOLS directory tree.
Many WPIs include debug data.

If you can't find the symbols on your own, it better to ask for help than ignore the missing symbols.

I can't speak for others, but I tend to ignore exceptq reports with missing debug data.  While I can still capable of doing manual decodes and more, I have to have a reason to invest time needlessly.  In this case I found the exception interesting.

When I look at the call stack, my first thought is that this is a use after free problem.  The code is finishing up a drag and drop operation.  The pointer in ecx looks like it was a valid pointer at one time, but the underlying memory has been freed.

This also could be a timing issue.

What's not clear to me is how David's description of what he did correlates with a drag and drop operation or how it correlates with a Klickstartmenu operation.

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Applications / Re: WarpWidgets - OS2Widgets
« Last post by Remy on Today at 01:26:34 am »
I updated the exe build of Weather (source Frank)
I sent him an email too with following full package including source res file  + update.readme

note: didn't get any return from him since ma last email

now with DE, EN, FR, IT and ES language (the popupmenu will change language according setting)
Added up to 289 selectable Cities  (UK, DE, IT, ES, FR, some other EU countries and a long list for USA)
Possibility to change the text font if needed
wider widget to increase text length fields

A few screenshots done using icon set 2
(ES,  IT, US, EN, DE, FR)
 
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phaelonimaire,

I would very much like for you to present your work at warpstock.  If you can show or demo a part of the project that would be great.  If you don't have enough ready to do a demo I think it would still be a very interesting presentation.  The discussion of the path you are taking, why you made those decisions, what your experiences have been so far would, I think, be of value and interest to most, if not all, the attendees.  You seen some of the interest in this forum.  I have also been contacted back-channel about some interest in having you present.  Please email me at j 4 5 4 3 at  icloud period com

As a side note: I would love to get a presentation on WDSibyl, and from anyone who has done comparisons on different ways of remote accessing another computer for browsing, and anyone who has replaced their wifi card with a  older card that is compatible with existing wifi drivers - how hard was it, what was the performance afterward, etc.

Now I need to go settle down my sacred cow - she has been mooing in the back pasture.
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Applications / Re: Klickstartmenu
« Last post by David Graser on September 06, 2026, 10:24:15 pm »

Yes, I use launch pad.

I checked again.  Running Launch Pad together with Klickstartmenu destroys the desktop.  Individually, each works fine with xcenter.  The two programs LP and Klickstartmenu presently do not work together.
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Applications / Does Lotus Smartsuite 9.8 work with Odin in OS2?
« Last post by theangrybunny on September 06, 2026, 09:20:19 pm »
Hello,

I'm a bit of a long time lurker here. I have some older PC's that I keep running that have 4gb soldered, and I want to keep them useful. I am hopeful I can use OS2 (likely in the form of ArcaOS) for that purpose.

My big stumbling block is productivity software. I use Lotus Smartsuite daily for my work. But... I use 9.8 for Windows, which has a bunch of features the OS2 version never got (for those in the know, a good example is the ClickHere Management window). I also use Lotus Organizer for some of my calendar work, but I use version 6.1. The OS2 version only supports Organizer 4 format.

Has anyone tried to get Smartsuite 9.8 running under ArcaOS with Odin? Is it usable? I once tried installing Linux and using Wine and found the experience sufficiently frustrating that I gave up on it.

Thank you.
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Applications / Re: Klickstartmenu
« Last post by Remy on September 06, 2026, 05:42:53 pm »
Thanks. One more question: did you use the option to hide the desktop icons?
You would normally have to right-click the “Show Desktop” icon and choose that option, so it is not something that should happen accidentally.
Also, after the empty desktop appeared, did the WPS come back by itself, or did you have to reboot?
And were the desktop icons already mixed up before the reboot, or only after the WPS/reboot came back?
 

did you use the option to hide the desktop icons?  No
Also, after the empty desktop appeared, did the WPS come back by itself, or did you have to reboot? Reboot
Of course after reboot

Yes, I use launch pad.
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Applications / Re: Klickstartmenu
« Last post by JPM on September 06, 2026, 05:36:43 pm »
Thanks David. The Navigator can already be enabled or disabled separately, so I should also be able to make the global titlebar/frame hook an independent option.

The PM Navigator came later and was not part of the original titlebar experiment, so separating both features makes sense.
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