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Quote from: AAA on 2012.09.19, 23:23:02Quote from: miturbide on 2012.09.19, 17:18:21
... OS/4 kernel is a illegal software ...
It would be very interesting to hear how you can prove this statement.
Quote from: miturbide on 2012.09.19, 17:18:21
... OS/4 kernel is a illegal software ...
Quote from: abwillis on 2012.09.10, 21:46:28Latest OS/4 kernel package contain both debug and retail kernels ;) Really retail - without kernel debugger code. COM port link still available, but optional - for logging...
The biggest problem with the kernel (not necessarily any issue I know of on the loader) is the fact that they used the debug kernel to patch. The debug kernel is not designed to use in every day usage. I would guess they used it because they probably used the debugging function connected to another PC to figure out what needed to be done but then had everything based off of the binary they were using because they lacked the source.
Quote from: miturbide on 2012.09.11, 00:06:521) once they are able to replace the IBM leaked source code. Using leaked source code is consider illegal. Abandonware is consider illegal. There is no future for a platform if it can not be also used for commercial use. Companies and individuals that works to make money don't want to have the risk of using an illegal platform.I think - only one way is to annoy IBM every month and repeatedly ask to open OS/2 source code ;)
Quote2) When OS/4 kernel and loader turns open source. I don't know why some Russians thinks that Open Source only help the capitalist. Talking on the #OS2russian channel they told me "Open Source only works for making Mensys Millions of Dollars". But they don't think that turning the software open source (copyleft) also forces Mensys to give back the source code improvements.There is a small problem with Mensys - they cannot create working things ;) Multimac? Fine - it works 3 (three) seconds on full gigabit speed for me, then trap system ;) Uniaud? It mute forever after 1-2 sounds, on most of PCs near me. Azarewicz version. They put wrong versions of drivers to release (!) of OS. They create system app with funny default Borland Delphi icon, etc, etc...
QuoteAbout QSLoader, as far as I know it is original work (please correct me if I'm wrong), but it says on the license.Gorbunov wrote a time ago on his forum: "we need to search source code available to put our copyrights on it" ;) This is clearly define "the way of Mensys", I think ;) May be I'm wrong, but I can promise to upload qsloader source code then it author became too tired of it.
"Binary form of this package is freeware. Source code can be available by request, for non-commercial use only." So, this loader do not has a future, and the license seems to be dedicated to Mensys.
QuoteThe OS/4 team need to stop having heart feelings against Mensys and think about the future of the platform.May be... but who started this "war"? Who asked hobbes to remove OS/4 loader (not kernel!)? Why? It really usable, for personal use, at least. Especially on modern PCs (with "holes" in memory). And who will really care about it's "source" if it is not distributed by Mensys? IBM? Are they remember such word at all? ;)
Quote from: Blonde Guy on 2012.09.18, 07:09:28Interesting the X60 needs the /VBE as my Z61m (seems to be more closely related to T60 than T61 in many regards) doesn't. Though I wonder if that would speed up the resume, it suspends immediately but takes I think longer to resume than to boot it up in many cases.
Suspend/resume is working on my Thinkpad X60. It needed to be on IBM single mouse driver, to have the /VBE parameter and to have the latest USB drivers, 10.185 installed.