| Subject | : | HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | arr |
| Date | : | 18 Apr, 2004 on 01:25 |
| I am just curious since I don't have access to a warp server box to try it out my self; so I was wondering, has anyone installed this on their regular warp 4 machine and how much success did you have? I have been reading about how it can be installed on a regular warp 4 box and that IBM had no problem with people doing so if they had access to a warp 4 server. An inguiring mind would just like to know. regards, |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | jer jksamphere@yahoo.com |
| Date | : | 18 Apr, 2004 on 03:34 |
| Yes, In fact I run it with eComStation Entry 1.1 Works very well ![]() However I don't install via the normal way. Cheers |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | Kim |
| Date | : | 18 Apr, 2004 on 09:54 |
| Can only agree that it works without any problem to install on a plain Warp client. I've used the hpfs386 when I had the use to secure up a client down to the level of controlling the directories and files. This can be done adding the hpfs386 security features. |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | arr |
| Date | : | 18 Apr, 2004 on 12:11 |
| Hmmm, interesting. Too bad I don't have access to a warp server box or I would give it a try myself. There are certainly no warp servers around where I am at. Well, anyways I guess I just don't understand why IBM didn't through this in the warp client to begin with. regards, |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | oli |
| Date | : | 18 Apr, 2004 on 12:37 |
| This is a part of the server, and owned partly by Microsoft which demands license fees, quite high, remember Warp server 4, the version without HPFS386 cost something like half of what the version with it cost |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | arr |
| Date | : | 18 Apr, 2004 on 12:42 |
| Yes, well from what I understand part of hpfs is owned by Microsoft and it was thrown in warp client as well as probably other parts of the os so they could have used the same reasoning and just included FAT. I still don't understand the decision to not include it, but there were several decisions concerning os/2 that IBM made that I think were poor. arr |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | Kim |
| Date | : | 18 Apr, 2004 on 15:09 |
| The licens fee was too high and since of JFS support within WSFeB it was taken out of the product. But, one could still buy a seperat hpfs386 licens from IBM (at one could couple of years ago). Also, if one had an earlier licens of the os2 servers there was no problem at all to use the old installations media and this is a valid installation feature. But, I recall that the licens fee to Microsoft per sold system that included hpfs386 was around $100-$160. But back to the question again, why would you like to install hpfs386? Is due to the fact of mutliuser support or that you can install an extra security feature to gain control over the directories and files. If this is the need you could take a look at Security/2. I haven't tried it out myself and still waiting for feedback on earlier posted question how well it works. |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | arr |
| Date | : | 18 Apr, 2004 on 19:20 |
| It's not really a big need or deal to install it. I have been reading from several articles and tests about the advantages it has over hpfs and just wanted to hear from some people who have actually installed on a regular warp 4 client if it actually gave any performance boosts. I don't think life will cease if I don't get to install it because it's not available ro it is too expensive. It is more of a curiosity issue then anything else. regards, |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | Kim |
| Date | : | 18 Apr, 2004 on 20:42 |
| On a client you will hardly notice any difference in speed. |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | arr |
| Date | : | 19 Apr, 2004 on 03:23 |
Hmmm, well I guess I don't understand some people installing it on warp 4 clients then unless its for the security reasons you mentioned. I guess some of that stuff I read was just hype then. I actually I am quite content with hpfs, it works just fine for me. Thanks for the info Kim.![]() regards, |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | dink enigma2@eesc.com |
| Date | : | 19 Apr, 2004 on 09:03 |
I have been using hpfs386 on warp4 client since 1997, and there _is_ a huge difference in speed between it and hpfs.ifs. For me, warp crawls without it. not only is it faster at the same cache sizes (2meg) as hpfs.ifs, its lightyears faster with a huge (12-32meg) cache. Kim either doesn't know what hes talking about, or has too slow of a PC/HDD for it to make a difference.. ![]() try it for yourself: (includes an easy-to-use w/warp4/acp/mcp howto) best regards, |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | Kim |
| Date | : | 19 Apr, 2004 on 13:41 |
| Hm.. well, on a multiuser system with heavy file loading/access I totally agree that hpfs386 is highly recommended. But, on plain workstation for normal use, well not that I can agree that I notified an extrem boost of speed. If the workstation has a high workload of accessing files then yes, hpfs386 is recommended. It all comes down to what the system is used for. |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | oli |
| Date | : | 19 Apr, 2004 on 20:47 |
| There was a huge difference on warp 3 and peraps even more on Warp 4 especially if you had a huge chace (I routinly had half of available memory as a HPFS cahce), IBM will sell you a seperate HPFS386 license for USD 600 BTW, however on ecs 1.1 the speed difference is much less pronounced for reasons that I do not understand all too well, and there are minor incompatiabilitiy issues with the software as well in addition to it being a dead end So currently I am doing without it and as JFS is finally getting rock solid I may delete it from my clients altogether. Bootable JFS would make my day. |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | jabesse |
| Date | : | 20 Apr, 2004 on 07:08 |
| I used it on Warp 4, and it sure gave me turbo! Most noticable when starting large applications like staroffice or mozilla. With JFS, you won't hardly need it, as JFS is comparable in speed. HPFS386 might be the choice over HPFS if you only have one partition, as JFS isn't bootable (yet). As soon as JFS is bootable, that would be the path to go, as the code for HPFS386 has been frozen for some time already, afaik. |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | jer jksamphere@yahoo.com |
| Date | : | 21 Apr, 2004 on 12:10 |
Security/2 works very nice! I use it in conjunction with OpenSSH....I highly recommend it. I'm going to be making a donation to the project soon. |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | jer jksamphere@yahoo.com |
| Date | : | 21 Apr, 2004 on 12:15 |
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| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | Toby |
| Date | : | 01 Apr, 2005 on 14:26 |
| Hi Last month I got an OS/2 warp server box from eBay and I already managed to install the HPFS386 package on my eCS 1.1 system. It seemed to work fine, but my problem is now that if I access an eCS share from my windows computer that I don´t have the permission to read or to modify files any more. I even can´t see the files inside my Windows shares any more.
Toby PS: |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | Toby |
| Date | : | 01 Nov, 2005 on 18:32 |
Hi
After a half-year of seeking, I now found a document, which shows me that under hpfs386 no share ever can be modified. http://svn.clkao.org/svnweb/linux/checkout/cvs/Documentation/filesystems/hpfs.txt?rev=19650 ->" HPFS386 on OS/2 server is not supported. HPFS386 installed on normal OS/2 client should work. If you have OS/2 server, use only read-only mode." Toby |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de |
| Date | : | 04 Nov, 2005 on 09:32 |
| Toby, sorry that I didn't notice this thread before. What Windows version are the machines running? I've had both a Warp Server Advanced and now a WSEB both using HPFS386. I was able to connect with every version of windows. Greetings |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de |
| Date | : | 04 Nov, 2005 on 09:40 |
| Hi Toby, it's me again. I followed the link to the document you mentioned above... so if I understand correctly, you are running HPFS386 on an OS/2 machine and your windows machines can't see the shares, is that right? Greetings |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | Fahrvenugen |
| Date | : | 04 Nov, 2005 on 17:41 |
| I've found that on Windows machines trying to network to OS/2, if I use the graphical icon / Network Neighbourhood / "computers near me" / whatever it is called lately - it is about a 50-50 chance that it'll find the OS/2 machine. However, if I am logged on with a user ID and password that exists on the OS/2 machine, and I use the NET command from the command prompt on the Windows machine, accessing the actual machine name of the OS/2 system, it will almost always find the machine. For example: NET VIEW \\computername NET USE x: \\computername\drivesharename etc Of course, you also have to be sure the same network protocols are installed on both the Windows and OS/2 systems. I don't know if this will help, or if you've already tried this. Interestingly, I've found that the command line NET command is also more reliable when Windows machines are talking to other Windows machines then the graphical interface. I don't kinow why this is, but as a result I've pretty much given up on the Windows network GUI stuff and usually just go straight for the command prompt. Hope this helps |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de |
| Date | : | 04 Nov, 2005 on 18:14 |
| Ahhhhh! Dammit! That's what I forgot to mention: The "network neighbourhood browser" service needs to be installed on the OS/2 machine for the Windows "Network Neighbourhood" can see the OS/2 shares!!! (or the respective "computers near me" stuff) Greetings |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | Toby |
| Date | : | 04 Nov, 2005 on 19:33 |
| Hi Thomas! I´am using eCS 1.1 with a Hpfs386 package from an OS/2 Server box, as far as I know it is even allowed by IBM to use it on other OS/2 Systems. As far as I know I installed it correctly, because it says at boot up that the filesystem is installed. Or will there have to be installed other files for using HPFS386 over a Nework ? Regarding the Shares: My thought is that it has something to do with the permission rights which I set with the security tab ( tried everything: basic, advanced ... ) under eCS 1.1 or/and with the installation of Hpfs386. I can allways see the eCS pc over the Windows "Network Neighbourhood" and I´ve also got the "network neighbourhood browser" service installed ( as far as I can remember, is it not installed by default with eCS.) But the "network neighbourhood browser" service acts kind of strange, it displays my windows computer, even it is not on the network, of course then it can´t be accesed. But there are three identical links to my computer and everytime if it is connected to the network it adds a link and I can´t delete the links. Shares are also displayed more than ones inside the links to the computer. Toby |
| Subject | : | Re:HPFS386 and Warp 4 |
| Author | : | Toby |
| Date | : | 05 Nov, 2005 on 09:45 |
| Hi! I´ve got it working. There were such small things wrong. But as it sometimes is it can cause big problems. 1. Inside the Hpfs386.ini was no IBMLAN folder specified. I always tried to get the permission of the folder C:\ÖffentlOrd right. As I did it in Windows, but I then did not checked the permission of drive c:! Thanks for you´re help |