| Subject | : | Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | BigWarpGuy |
| Date | : | 16 Oct, 2005 on 18:23 |
| I know eCS will work on a computer that one can install into a car. Will eCS work with a touchscreen monitor? Is there software that one can use with the car pc that make it worth installing eCS onto the car pc? I have Car PC Hacks. I will be reading it thoroughly. BigWarpGuy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - OS/2-eCS.org Director of Communications - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - supporting the past OS/2 user and the future eCS user http://www.os2ecs.org |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de |
| Date | : | 17 Oct, 2005 on 12:09 |
| Hi, AFAIK, warp4 already had touchscreen support. I remember that in the graphical part of install, it created (amongst others) a "touchscreen" object. Greetings |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | Grimus andi710@web.de |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 11:12 |
OS/2 was used for such a long time in cash dispensers that it should basically work fine with touch screens. I have no clue about the drivers needed for a touchscreen, but I can imagine it's just another pointing device with a standard interface (just like any other mouse that you can use in its basic functionality - you just need special drivers if you want to use all the new fancy buttons...) cheers |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | BigWarpGuy |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 14:26 |
| I was wondering if there were any eCS-OS/2 programs that one would want to use on a pc that one has installed in a car?
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| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 15:36 |
Hi,
...screensaver? Well, hmm... it depends: Besides... if there's internet connection: e-mail... or a internet-based navigation stuff a la "map24". But who knows: If the car pc has a touch screen and a "visually appealing" interface - why not? It's surely much more comfortable then fiddling with radio knobs while driving. That reminds me - harhar - that if there's some kind of internet connection, one might be able to use VOIP phone with pc-based headsets instead of messing around with a handsfree cell phone. At least - while not driving - you might want to watch TV or some DVDs? Greetings |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 16:10 |
| Hello again, hmmm. This is interesting. Being curious, I google'd around to see if open-source software projects exist regarding GPS-based navigation. Holy moly! There are quite some of them! For those interested, here's a good point to start: ...and more exist, but NO PANIC, GUYS! : So basically one is able to "receive" his/her current GPS-based position onto a PC running OS/2 - from a hardware point of view. I'm sure that a small app for "reading" the serial port should be possible to do by someone, I don't think it's too difficult if there's a spec sheet *somwhere* by the manufacturer... I'm afraid that for *now* there's only one solution: Find a current navigation software (with up-to-date maps) that either works in DOS (good luck for the search!) or in ODIN. Greetings |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de |
| Date | : | 19 Oct, 2005 on 09:36 |
| Hi, just another idea: What about operating the car pc via speech recognition? Wouldn't that be *cool* ? Greetings |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | icebear |
| Date | : | 19 Oct, 2005 on 12:09 |
| Possible scenario: Car PC and eCS's Voice System says: Please fasten your seat belts ! A while later: One still has to fasten its seat belt ... Holy cow, fasten seat belt my business bag Happy journey ! |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? .. Ramble, ramble. |
| Author | : | phaelonimaire |
| Date | : | 27 Oct, 2005 on 00:50 |
| A PC in the car provides endless opportunities. I work for a company specializing in automotive diagnostics with Warp4. ..Touchscreens. Most touchscreens sold by ELO (not the band, although I could go for some ELO in the car) have OS/2 support. The problem with most touchscreens is that the touch film causes serious glare in sunlight. (if you can read it at all) If you used one of those embedded 3.5 boards (size of a floppy drive), LVDS LCD and touchscreen, you could make a pretty nifty in-car display (Those 3.5 boards only require +5v to run the entire board). With the parallel port, you could make it so that when someone gets out of the passenger seat, it says "Please deposit 25 cents or doors will remain locked". There are also the nifty things you can get out of your OBD-2 diagnostics port. I have (somewhere) an OS/2 port of the J2534 passthrough DLL for the Cardaq (reprogramming/data retrieval tool) that we had done but never used. Through the diag port, you an get MPH, RPM, and some other useful tidbits. With some cars you can do things like Lock your doors, Cause your windshield washers to spray, Roll down windows, Pop the trunk, blow the horn, etc. Wardriving could be amusing as well. At one point I had even thought of using OS/2 to completely replace my ECU/PCM, but I didn't want to have to wait for OS/2 to boot to start my car. You never know when you'll have to escape a hord of zombified chimps. I remember talking to someone when we were thinking of moving from Warp4 to eCS, and them mentioning a customer which could boot a full Warp in 4 seconds.. The fastest warp boot I've done to date I think was between 8-14 seconds, using the minimal config (no pmshell, only in1t3 disk support) ..So at that point, I moved from Warp to building my own embedded Z80 computer. Oh, and you can find those embedded PC doodads at places like www.icpamerica.com. (Company no like americans. Web site is decent, though) LCD displays: www.earthlcd.com. Or hell, get one of those single voltage ATX power supplies and Mini-ITX boards from www.mini-box.com They're $250 cheaper than the industrial embedded boards. I don't know how much of the hardware is OS/2-friendly, though. |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | davidfor |
| Date | : | 28 Oct, 2005 on 02:45 |
But what if you end up with KARR instead of KITT?
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| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | BigWarpGuy |
| Date | : | 28 Oct, 2005 on 14:56 |
| There was a sequel (IIRC) to the 'Knight Rider' show where there was a team of 'KITT' type vehicles (a pickup truck with an attitude, a vehicle that split into two motorcycles, and other vehicles [plus a huge cargo plane capaple of VTOL]). Perhaps make ones car to have a voice recognition software and speech synthesis? (talk to ones car and have it respond?). I think that would be cool. |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | cyber manic cynic@ptt.yu |
| Date | : | 10 May, 2006 on 14:26 |
| [quote]warpcafe (18 Oct, 2005 16:10): Hello again, The *real big* problem is, that you need a software that operates your MAPS. and of course: Maps. Or map files. I don't know if there exists a set of "open-source" maps, but due to the cost that is involved in collecting the information required, I can't imagine other sources than commercial companies e.g. Navtech or Mapsolut.
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| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de |
| Date | : | 10 May, 2006 on 14:45 |
BWG, just today I was driving to work when I heard an advertising in the radio, saying that Ford Motors (Europe) are now offering a Voice-Control AddOn for their latest models which is used to control AirCon, radio and other appliances... Greetings (from Germany) |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | cyberspittle cyberspittle@yahoo.com |
| Date | : | 10 May, 2006 on 19:57 |
I think rear seat passengers may enjoy playing Mahjongg or other card games while traveling. Imagine being the driver and the person behind you thumping your headrest constantly? LOL. Also, you would probably also consider the capability to listen to MP3s (make the screensaver sound good) and also being able to watch DVDs (or DVDs ripped to hard drive). |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? .. Ramble, ramble. |
| Author | : | Blonde Guy |
| Date | : | 22 May, 2006 on 04:45 |
OK. This is cool. The ODB-2 plug is behind the ashtray of my VW Golf. What do I need to do to get my laptop to read ODB-2 data?
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| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | cyber manic cynic@ptt.yu |
| Date | : | 11 Jun, 2006 on 16:59 |
| About GPS map programs, this is from readme file inside movma215.zip:
MOVEMAP is an OS/2 moving map program that As far as I know there are no other OS/2
I found archive in my own archive folder, I |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? .. Ramble, ramble. |
| Author | : | phaelonimaire |
| Date | : | 18 Jun, 2006 on 15:03 |
What year was the car made? Most foreign cars use the ISO9141 protocol. However, all manufacurers are supposed to move to CAN by 2008. Drew Tech (www.drewtech.com) handles some really handy hardware, however it is expensive. Although their software is for windows, I have a copy of the OS/2 version of the DLLs required to use the CarDaq. They may also be persuaded to let us make a port ourselves. This project uses the cardaq, and is open source. I also have an OS/2 version of this: |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | legofan boenicke@gmx.de |
| Date | : | 05 Jul, 2006 on 11:46 |
| Hi, just stumbled about this topic. regards |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | BigWarpGuy |
| Date | : | 05 Jul, 2006 on 14:11 |
| That sounds cool. Would SNAP support a touch screen?
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| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | cyber manic cynic@ptt.yu |
| Date | : | 05 Jul, 2006 on 14:19 |
| wouldn't be great to use remote mouse in car ? How to connect this computer in car, which HD to use for boot ? Is it possible to boot from mmc/sd/whatever cards ? Or just use hdd to boot and then card for data (music, videos, maps,...) ? |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | BigWarpGuy |
| Date | : | 05 Jul, 2006 on 15:13 |
| With the first post is a link to a site on the book 'CarPC Hacks' (IIRC on the name) and there is a similar project at http://www.mini-itx.com ( http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/bmwpc/ )
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| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | legofan boenicke@gmx.de |
| Date | : | 10 Jul, 2006 on 16:55 |
It is possible to boot from CompactFlash Cards. See this report: To BigwarpGuy: So some things are to do, but it should be possible |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | BigWarpGuy |
| Date | : | 11 Jul, 2006 on 03:14 |
| Thank you for the information. It was very informative.
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| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | cyber manic cynic@ptt.yu |
| Date | : | 11 Jul, 2006 on 13:31 |
Hey, this on is really cool. I have some ideas, and some experience from similar project. What I do not know And best to make question in this thread: |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de |
| Date | : | 11 Jul, 2006 on 16:41 |
| Hi, Q1: I'm not much into electricity matters regarding volts, watts and amperes, but I know that there are small power supply replacements for notebooks that are adjustable to anything between 5 and 20 volts (I have bought one from eBay for charging/using my Thinkpad in the car). You would just attach it to the cigarette lighter socket as always. However, it would mean to solder an adapter in order to attach that output to the MoBo power connector. And I doubt that these power adaptors have any kind of surge protection or switching facilities, so you're likely to ruin your motherboard if anything goes wrong. Q2: I remember I saw "spare" LCDisplays on eBay that are attachable to VGA connectors. So far, I haven't disassembled a broken notebook so I can't tell what that connections looks like... Q3: I don't know of any - sorry. But I think it's more likely to find a JAVA software than OS/2 or ported linux... Greetings |
| Subject | : | Re:Car PC and eCS? |
| Author | : | legofan boenicke@gmx.de |
| Date | : | 11 Jul, 2006 on 20:18 |
| Hi, regarding the powersupply of a car pc i would recommend to use a special PSU for this purpose. The reason is that in your car there won't be a pure DC, but a spoiled Voltage around 13 Volts. If you start the engine the Voltage may go down to 8 Volt. If you drive at full speed the Voltage reaches around 14,5 V. There will be surges on the powerline that can destroy the car pc. Using a special car pc Power supply buffers and regulates the voltages to the desired PC Voltages (+5, +3.3, +12 ), signals the pc that the ignition is off to go into standby or powerdon the system. Those notebook display don't have a VGA Input. It's mostly a LVDS interface, for which you get nearly no graphic card. The easiest way is to use a car DVD screen with an additional VGA Input. Those Displays are mostly capable to show 800x600. For building a car pc one should read the pages on www.mini-itx.com and others. This gives a lot of information |