| Subject | : | Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Farq |
| Date | : | 23 Feb, 2006 on 22:48 |
| Hello, I am creating articles on my website about why people use certain OSes, I have already done Windows, Linux/BSD, & Mac OS. What keeps you using OS/2? |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 24 Feb, 2006 on 01:08 |
| "Link," please...
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| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Farq |
| Date | : | 24 Feb, 2006 on 01:23 |
| http://osadvocacy.freecoolsite.com/reasons.shtml My articles have not been uploaded, as I still have a few articles to go. This page will be replaced by links to all the OSe's articles. |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Isaac atomic_frogii@yahoo.ca |
| Date | : | 24 Feb, 2006 on 07:36 |
| Why not? It still runs on newer Thinkpads, such as the one I own. It does everything I usually want to do with my computer. Why would I want to switch? It actually has more useable apps (in my opinion) and is much less messy and bloated than Linux (which I use everyday at work). The only reason I would switch is if I moved to better hardware (i.e. Mac !) that didn't support OS/2. I mean, yes OS/2 can't do video editing. How many average users do that? No games, but I fire up my PS2 and I'm not a hardcore gamer, nor are most "average" users. Wordprocessing, spreadsheets, e-mail, chat, browsing, everything I want can be done. |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | BigWarpGuy |
| Date | : | 24 Feb, 2006 on 14:46 |
I started using OS/2 Warp ver 3 when I could not afford Win95 (I had hoped it would be on sale when Win98 came out - it wasn't and Win95 was pulled from the shelves). I installed Warp ver 3 (I a had a little trouble installing it but it was easy to solve). Unlike Win from MS, each newer version of OS/2 (from Warp 3, 4 to eCS 1.1) became better than the previous version (with Win, each version was a little better in some ways but increasingly frustrating). I think eCS is great. I can run all the software I use on it (browsers like Mozilla and Firefox, word processors like StarOffice and OS/2 version of Open Office, photo editors like PMView, movie player like WarpVision, etc). I am not really into games so I do not mind not playing them). I like the idea that few vyruses affect eCS and spyware would have more difficulty running on it. It is just a better operating system.
--- BigWarpGuy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - OS/2-eCS.org Director of Communications - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - supporting the past OS/2 user and the future eCS user http://www.os2ecs.org |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 24 Feb, 2006 on 20:59 |
| Speed, ease of use and above all. Power! I'm a power fiend. Make if fast, smooth and Gilbralter solid and name it OS/2.It runs like a flu-filled, oversized nose on a cold day... fast and without interruption. Oops! Sorry... that'snot very funny. Ahmm... It's easy to backup, easy to restore and easy to fix should something go wrong and, above all, it's largely unknown to the masses. The programs for it are light, tight and functional and performs, (with little exception), like a user would want them to. The community is not filled with teenaged twits on powerful drugs, (read hormones), who think they know everything, (but know nothing), and must insist that everyone acknowledge them. Rather, the community is filled with knowledgeable, helpful, mature, (in a good way), and considerate people. And besides all that, we look good when we comb our hair... in fact some of us look stunning, (Daniella for example). And besides that, we've been kicked out and abandoned by the biggest kid on the block; IBM... and if you gotta be dumped, you might as well be dumped by the best! After all, is it not better to have once been loved and lost, than never to have been loved at all? (Kudos to Shakespeare.) I mean, does anyone really love windows? *haukes and spits*Multi-tasking and multi-threading. The best there is for the desktop. Flexible beauty; you can adjust more colours in OS/2 than any other OS.Container functions, (open, close, minimize, titlebars etc.), can be changed on the fly. OS/2. can be added to and modified without the source code, (though it never hurts to have it), i.e. it's of modular design. Many enhancers take advantage of that like XWorkplace, Object Desktop and a myriad of others. Simply make a module and drop it in... like a new brand of cigarettes in a smoke machine. *coughs* It makes all your computer friends, (Windows users that think they're computer experts), stand by in drooling silence watching it for the first time mumbling partial, softly-spoken clever, phrases like, "it boots like Linux" or "What's that thing for?" or "It's some fast you must have 10 gigs of RAM to run that fast." And you can watch their short-lived joy fade after they deliver their coup de grass; Then you open a window list, (CAD or PC), and show them the 300+ PID list and the 6% CPU useage. Afterwards they just slink away and never speak of Hmm... I'm being small minded. But the main reason I use Oh... sorry for those graphics images... but what do you expect from a writer? I hope that gives you something to work with, Farq. ![]() |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Farq |
| Date | : | 25 Feb, 2006 on 23:02 |
Thank you. I have everything I need ![]() |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Fahrvenugen |
| Date | : | 26 Feb, 2006 on 06:43 |
Well said Ben. Although I'd add to the list impressing my friends by picking up my mic and saying "Jump to Google", and all of the sudden Firefox opens up with Google... Of course I don't use VoiceType for much else, but it is fun to impress people with! |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 26 Feb, 2006 on 17:59 |
Thank-you.
I often think of putting VoiceType back on my machine. It is impressive technology and ten years old for I'm tired of telling people, (when they say; "I can't wait for the time when you can talk to your computer like in the movies"), that If "that" existed they'd know about it and everyone would be using it. Yeah, sure you would... Well, we all know about it and we use Tell me, Fahrvenugen; What's your hardware setup and does it slow down your machine at all? ![]() |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Fahrvenugen |
| Date | : | 27 Feb, 2006 on 06:16 |
Currently, a P-III 500 with 256 MB ram, and a SB Live for sound. I do have VoiceType installed, but don't often use it (unless I'm trying to impress someone). I don't have it set to load up all the time. When it is active then yes, it slows down the machine. When it isn't running then it doesn't seem to have an effect on performance, aside from taking up a bunch of hard disk space (but then I've got an 80 GB drive, so I'm not too worried about the amount of space that VT takes up). Overall I still find it quicker (and more accurate) to type and use a mouse. But it is fun to impress people with! |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Farq |
| Date | : | 27 Feb, 2006 on 22:50 |
| I saw the eComStation Demo. ECS was awesome. Although eCS is good, performs much better than linux/BSD on a PIII(GCC sucks, it can produce slow code. They should have used OpenWatcom or a Borland product) and pars speed with windows. However, some of the apps that came with it still have that 16-bit feel, and that just made me drop it. Windows 2000 and BeOS are the best I've seen. BeOS loads extremely fast and can perform much better than windows, however, the community is almost dead - 14 users online, none go to the forum or help the newbs. Windows still has room for a lot of improvment, but it still has the biggest software library. Mac OS X has great looks. Unfortunately, Apple dabbled with Mach, and the user freindliness was lost due to *nix's problems. Their campaign to switch you to a Mac is weak. |
| Subject | : | Re: Why do you use OS/2 ? Easy & user friendly ! |
| Author | : | icebear |
| Date | : | 28 Feb, 2006 on 04:54 |
| Well said, Ben ! One more question: I believe with a lot of dumb clickies !? Under OS/2 with Desktop Wizard it closes all like following: Easy & user friendly !!! |
| Subject | : | Re: Why do you use OS/2 ? Easy & user friendly ! |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 28 Feb, 2006 on 05:32 |
Thank you kindly. ![]()
That's a good one. ![]() But, did you mean WPS Wizard? But, even without enhancers, an OS/2 user only has to bring up the Window List via mouse-button chord, highlight the apps. one wants to close/minimize etc., and hit the appropriate button. (Oops! That's with Object Desktop. With just the WPS it's right click and select menu choice.)Hmm... Of course, in windows defense, (hehe ![]() |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | vingfel vingfel@excite.com |
| Date | : | 28 Feb, 2006 on 09:59 |
| Well, I have the feeling that the original question was more a list of task than a list of the OS2/eCS qualities... I use eCS for my daly tasks: Internet browsing, letter writting, simples drawing, pictures edition, AutoCAD 13 under WinOS2, and a lot of simple home things. My "Duty PC" run PM123 for the internet radio, MP3 and I use the CD player for the audio CDs. On another PC, I use Windows mainly to play. And for ICQ. My histories are 4 years long, and I do not want to change for another client. Orcad too, as it can not run under eCS... Forgotten running Duty PC in the basment Voila. |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | SuperBT |
| Date | : | 28 Feb, 2006 on 10:53 |
| There are practically NO GAMES available, so it MUST be a working system. Any OS where there are more games than userprograms available must be based on a toy factory ! Keep it there and not in the real world. But furthermore seriously, no hacking, no virusses, real proven multi-threading and mult-tasking (for decades), rock solid kernel. Ok, it's not for a "beginner" with no knowledge of anything about computer systems whatsoever. That's why there are no stupid questions and responses, and no stupidity actions that crashes all the every-day computers ... No need to shut down the system every once in a very short while, it keeps running for ages without restarts ! And all of these nices features with availability of modern office, database, drawing, internet and more programs. So for those other people: why are you NOT using it ? |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | jorejarena icejoe@yahoo.com |
| Date | : | 28 Feb, 2006 on 23:23 |
| Except for serious (??) 3D gaming, OS/2 can fulfill all my computing needs. Talking about games, what about MAME for OS/2 and lots of (illegal) ROM's? Even NeoRageXP+Odin works! |
| Subject | : | Re: Why do you use OS/2 ? Easy & user friendly ! |
| Author | : | icebear |
| Date | : | 01 Mar, 2006 on 05:52 |
Of course NO ! The very old Tool is named D(esktop)W(izard) 1.41and comes from Gary L. Robinson !!
Once again U misunderstood: Finishing my admin work I close all open folders with 2 clicks and my DT is empty !! |
| Subject | : | Re: Why do you use OS/2 ? Easy & user friendly ! |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 01 Mar, 2006 on 07:27 |
Well, the term "windows" merely means a container which can be a program, a folder, etc. Sounds interesting. I'll have to have a hunt around and see if I can find that old Desktop Wizard.
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| Subject | : | Re: Why do you use OS/2 ? Easy & user friendly ! |
| Author | : | Isaac atomic_frogii@yahoo.ca |
| Date | : | 01 Mar, 2006 on 08:53 |
Well, actually, you can do it with just 1 click. And it's built into OS/2 (at least Warp 4 and up). BTW, regarding closing all windows, Windows does actually have a feature (at least for WinXP). _If_ you have the QuickLaunch toolbar, you can click on the desktop icon and automatically close all open windows. Of course, OS/2 has had that a long time, select the "Desktop" item in the Warpcenter drop down, or as someone else suggested, just highlight and select all items in the task list and RMB to "Minimize" all of them. |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Farq |
| Date | : | 01 Mar, 2006 on 22:55 |
No, what they were saying was right. I'm looking for why you use OS/2 when there are much more popular and more supported OSes out there such as BSD, Linux, and Windows. Also, as I recall SuperBT, OS/2 has some downfalls such as the fact that if you don't input a window loop procedure, the whole GUI crashes and the system needs to be restarted. And I'm sure you like opening WinOS/2 then wanting to go to fullscreen you can't just press Alt+F4, you need to close the window, then open the full screen session. I'd love to get eComStation, but Red Hat would be far superiour on the IBM Intellistation M Pro. |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Fahrvenugen |
| Date | : | 02 Mar, 2006 on 05:01 |
I assume the GUI thing you're talking about is the Single Input Queue which many people have pointed to as being a "flaw" of OS/2. Yes, badly coded software has in the past been able to cause the Single Input Queue to lock up, resulting in the GUI freezing up. But there's a few things worth pointing out. First of all, there was a lot of work put into this problem on the part of IBM. Since Fixpak 17 in Warp 3, there has been a work-around coded into the system allowing the user to be able to close mis-behaving applications locking up the input queue, in most cases not requiring a restart. The fixes have been improved through Warp 3 Fixpak 17 and above, and the base release of Warp 4, and subsequently in later fixpaks, Warp Server for e-Business, and the convenience packs. Today it is *very rare* to run into an input queue lockup that actually requires a restart. I havn't had such a lockup in about 7 or 8 years. The second point that I'd make is that even if the input queue does get locked up, it does *not* lock up the whole operating system. Applications running in the background still continue to run. You can have your GUI locked up and still have your web server, database server, FTP server, spreadsheet calculating, graphics rendering, etc, running in the background safely. To comment on the idea of pressing alt-f4 to put a win-os/2 application into full screen mode, I don't know where you're coming from. Alt-F4 in any version of Windows (and in OS/2 for that matter) will close a running application. So pressing ALT-F4 is never going to get your Windows application to run full screen. If you're running a Windows 3.1 application in a non-fullscreen WinOS/2 session, you can still maximize the window and use it as a "full screen" on your desktop, just as you can in Windows. True, this won't run the full Windows session in a fullscreen session, but if your application runs fine on the OS/2 desktop, why would you need to put the entire session into full screen? |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Isaac atomic_frogii@yahoo.ca |
| Date | : | 02 Mar, 2006 on 07:23 |
| As someone pointed out, the "input queue" locking problem isn't really a problem anymore. It hasn't happened in years. What is special about this problem is that the odd time it occurs, it really is only the GUI. You can safely let things run in the background and finish if you need to. Or if it is a server, who cares? Just let it run. Not sure what you're referring to about full screen sessions and switching to them. If I'm running in a window and I want my full-screen session, it's a click away, minimized on the desktop. If I want to come back, it is Alt-ESC away. Why do you think RedHat would be better on an Intellistation? I think for some purposes, you'd do better to have Linux on the machine. I run Linux everyday at work on a variety of machines, some of them very new. I _don't_ think Linux is better than OS/2 or eCS on them for general purpose work. Quite the opposite actually. |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Cris |
| Date | : | 02 Mar, 2006 on 15:09 |
| Hi all, just my two cents about the "full screen Windows" thing. Farq, I think your doubts come from the fact that you have no experience (or little) with OS/2. You are probably imagining a windowed Windows session as something constrained in a window on the desktop, much like a VirtualPC session can be constrained in a window or switched to full screen. Well, nothing could be further from the truth. A "windowed" Windows session, is not windowed at all, in fact we call it "seamless". What you have is the windows of the Windows applications are shown on the OS/2 desktop just like any other _native_ PM window. You can tell them apart just because they have different widgets. OTOH, a "full-screen" Windows session has its own desktop, completely separated from the OS/2 desktop, and you can switch between the two. As you can see, this is actually *less* desireable than the "seamless" way of doing things. Keep in mind that if you need an application to run in a full-screen session for whatever reason, you can simply start _THAT_ application in a full-screen session, while leaving the others running seamlessly. You can start as many Windows sessions as you want (well, not really... but a lot more than you could actually need), everyone with its own settings, and everyone is multitasked and protected independing of the others. Really, a Windows session - at least a full-screen one - is nothing more than a pumped-up DOS session for OS/2. Hope this helps... Cris |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Farq |
| Date | : | 13 Mar, 2006 on 01:41 |
| Update: You can now view the article under the reasons section of http://osadvocacy.frih.net/ |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | phaelonimaire |
| Date | : | 13 Mar, 2006 on 16:05 |
| I recently decided to stop using OS/2 alltogether and use Linux. This was due to MANY MANY broken parts of OS/2 which have existed since 1994. I have installed all of the fixes available on the eCS website (I purchased eCS 1.0 a few years back) and am still on the blink. However, this is not going the way you might think... I ran Slackware Linux for about a week. I have alot of experience with Slackware. I then switched to Debian Sarge after a friend went through the trouble to make me 14 CDs of it. My USB stuff magically started working. However, this is not a done deal. My installed base of Debian is 1.7GB! If you want a functional desktop, you MUST run KDE, GNOME, or some other titan of garbage. CUPS is a pain, as well. ..And apparently 256MB ram isn't enough for Debian.
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| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | BigWarpGuy |
| Date | : | 13 Mar, 2006 on 17:24 |
| I had alot fewer crashes on my OS/2 Warp or eComStation computer than I ever did on my Win pc. Plus there are alot fewer vyruses that can affect my OS/2 or eCS pc than there are for Win. When my OS/2 or eCS pc did crash, it was usually a Win program that I tried to run. Of the ones I use, there were OS/2-eCS versions (ie; Mozilla, StarOffice/OpenOffice, PMView, WarpVision, etc).
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| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Fahrvenugen |
| Date | : | 14 Mar, 2006 on 17:47 |
| Farq, With all due respect, after reading your article it seems clear to me that you've never used OS/2. To begin with:
There are a few obvious errors in this paragraph. First, it is true that part of the security in OS/2 is due to unpopularity. But a big part of it is because IBM made it to be secure. When your target customer is customers like banks and insurance companies, there is an expectation that the system will be secure. When places where security is vital - such as nuclear reactors - have been known to run OS/2 in some of their systems - it isn't just because the system is "unpopular", but it also has something to do with the fact that it is secure. One big reason that OS/2 still gets used today which is an obvious (in my opinion) omission in this paragraph is the fact that it is fully object-oriented, and the WorkPlace Shell. Sure, I can get FireFox and OpenOffice and Thunderbird and other applications on other platforms. But I can't get the WPS anywhere else. And my final comment - the Voice Recognition is called VoiceType, not "Warptalk".
Again, there are some glaring errors. IBM has done quite a bit of updating on OS/2. eComStation has been available for around 6 years now. During that time, IBM released a number of convenience packs for both the OS/2 client and the server. These included updates and new features and updated device drivers (such as LVM and JFS in the client). I'm not sure what you mean by "Fixpak Hell". Each new fixpak that IBM released included all the fixes from previous fixpaks. So if you install a Warp 3 system, and want the latest fixes, you simply need to install Fixpak 40 for Warp 3 (the latest released Fixpak for Warp 3). If you install Warp 4 and want the latest fixpak, you simply need Fixpak 15 for Warp 4. With utilities such as Updcd you can also create a refreshed install CD, which will incorporate the latest fixpak on to an install CD - then if you're doing a fresh install, you get all the fixes installed by default - no need to install any fixpak. This really is no different from installing a Windows service pack, only with Windows there is no way (that I'm aware of) to create a refreshed install CD. Comments about the User Interface, again I'm not sure where you're coming from. Every user interface is slightly different. Heck - just look at some of the changes between Windows 2000 and Windows XP! Linux has a different GUI, as does MacOSX, etc. The fact is, if you use the GUI for a bit, you'll get used to it pretty quickly. The comments about the WinOS/2 sessions, they've already been replied to. Essentially, if your Windows 3.1 application runs fine in a seamless window, then there is no need to run it in full screen mode. But if you want to, you can - or you can even run one copy in a seamless window, and another copy in a "full screen" windows. No big deal. As for DOS windows, you can switch them from being a window to full screen without having to quit your DOS session. That capability has been there since at least Version 2.0. Anyways, those are just mu thoughts. |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Fahrvenugen |
| Date | : | 14 Mar, 2006 on 17:52 |
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| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | RobertM |
| Date | : | 15 Mar, 2006 on 00:10 |
| Re: the comment about RedHat on an Intellistation... I know of no other OS that has been so thoroughly tested on Intellistations, nor (via Netfinity Manager) capable of hardware failure prediction (and not just for hard drives). Many Intellistations are really renamed Netfinity single and dual CPU servers. Warp with simple scripts or freeware can even query temperatures from fans, all CPUs, voltages and more because the support for this is built in. |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 15 Mar, 2006 on 08:25 |
| I must say, after having read the article I sat and scratched my head for a while wondering if I had the wrong link. Firstly, almost nothing said in it relates to any OS I ever used. And certainly not to OS/2 ... and I started with 2.0 way back when and,Secondly, although Farq created this thread to get feedback for his article I could not find a single thing from any of the replies. This raises two questions; Why was this thread created? and... What can possibly be the purpose of the article? Bizaare. --- ![]() |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Cris |
| Date | : | 15 Mar, 2006 on 09:01 |
| Hi Farq, unfortunately I have to say what others have said before me: your article is so full of incorrect and plainly false statements that makes me wonder why are you willing to publish such things on the web. ...but you probably aren't reading this forum anymore, are you? |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Kim |
| Date | : | 15 Mar, 2006 on 10:48 |
| Well, reading the other "articles" it's kind of negativ approach on all of them, so don't really know why they actually set up the site when there is no kind of usage approach with the different OS they have listed. |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | BigWarpGuy |
| Date | : | 15 Mar, 2006 on 19:39 |
| " So why use OS/2 with these problems? Many of the problems with OS/2 ware resolved with eComStation, so you won't find yourself in a enviroment as bad as that one. FixPacks are rare in eCS so don't worry about FixPack Hell. If you want an innovative, virus free OS, eComStation just could be right for you. The site shows that it is an 'operating system hate site', which is ironic since it takes an operating system to create/post the site/webpage(?).
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| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Farq |
| Date | : | 17 Mar, 2006 on 01:53 |
| About the windowed-fullscreen session thing: I meant Alt-Enter. I was thinking of something else at the time. Really the point of that was that why bother to make two apps that do the same thing, by the same company for the same OS? I apologise for any incorrectness in the previous article. I have fixed the article and I hope more of it is true. The point of the site is: "Why do people use a particular OS when there are far superior OSes out there?", and "What are the flaws of any of the OSes?". This is why its an "OS hate site". It points the flaws of reasonably popular OSes out there. |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Fahrvenugen |
| Date | : | 17 Mar, 2006 on 02:50 |
Uum, I just read the "updated" article, and have some commnents.
The above is not entirely true. Yes, you can install Fixpaks from floppy disks, but you can also install them from hard disk. IBM has supported this for years - ever since the Remote Software Updates site came out back in about 1997 or so (or was it earlier? Anyone remember?). The RSU version of the CSF utility has always allowed you to install a fixpak which has been downloaded direct to your hard disk. It was (as I recall) documented in one of the CSF readme's, but many never bothered to read this, and there wasn't a nice button on the gui to "install fixpak from hard disk", so many probably never knew it was possible. The command is to unzip the RSU CSF utility in a directory on its own (I use c:\os2serv), unzip the RSU version of the Fixpak into its own directory (for example, c:\fp15) (or, I should mention - you can extract the disk images to your hard disk if you download the floppy disk version - with a utility such as dskxtrct which can be found on Hobbes), fire up an OS/2 command prompt, switch to the RSU directory, and enter the command: os2serv c:\os2serv\csf c:\fp15 It'll then start up a GUI which allows you to install the fixpak. This will work for any of the IBM fixpaks which requrie the IBM CSF facility. You just have to specify the correct fixpak directory. Alternatively, there have been applications on Hobbes for years (since at least Warp 3 Fixpak 5) to install a Fixpak off a hard disk (or CD Rom). So, the floppy disk requirement has not always been there - it again is one of those things which became no longer necessary in about 97 (and before that using 3rd party applications). |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Farq |
| Date | : | 17 Mar, 2006 on 03:45 |
| Unfortunately, RSU isn't an option for me, as my OS/2 comp is not connected to the internet in anyway. I use my Windows/FreeBSD comp for the internet due to a problem with my DSL modem's drivers with OS/2. But, I shall look into the install utilities. I'm not wastin' my good floppies. |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Fahrvenugen |
| Date | : | 17 Mar, 2006 on 04:50 |
| Perhaps I need to be clearer, but the phrase "install from hard disk" does not mean "install while connected to the internet". You do *not* need to have an OS/2 machine connected to the internet to install a fixpak using the RSU - CSF facility. You can have it on your hard disk. Or you can burn it to a CD Rom. Or you can put it on a USB flash drive / memory stick. Or a ZIP drive. I've installed fixpaks using all of these media types successfully in the past. *But* you do need to be able to download the RSU version of the CSF facility and the desired fixpak(s) from the internet. You can download using any computer / operating system you wish. For example, if you're on Warp 4, the RSU version of Fixpak 15 (english language) is at: ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/rsu/xr_m015/ In that directory, everything you need to install a fixpak from your hard disk (or CD Rom) is there - the RSU version of the CSF facility, and the ZIPped version of the fixpak. The only file that you *don't* need is: ftpinstl.zip Otherwise the CSF143.zip (the RSU version of CSF) and the xr_m015?.zip files (the fixpak files) are the ones you'll need to have to install locally off a hard disk. Hope this is a little clearer. |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 17 Mar, 2006 on 05:51 |
| If I'm not mistaken, the Fixtool solved the floppy problem way back when. It's been so long since the floppies days I have a hard time recalling it. It was phased out around the same time all other OS manufacturer's were phasing them out. Of course, eCS made all that stuff moot a long time ago. Simply run the eCS Maintenance Tool and all becomes simple and straight forward, or just install the convenience pak from CD if you deal with IBM. While it's clear that OS/2 like all software, has it's share of problems, it is far less annoying or devastating, (as the case may be), when something goes wrong and it is far more stable, (when properly setup), than any other OS out there or I'd'a tossed it a long time ago. But, it's the best. The fact that it can't run a lot of Windows software is a plus if you ask me. Most Windows based software is so invasive, so bloated, clunky and user-unfriendly I just can't stand to use it or even have it on my machine... and I'm not going to get into the spyware thing, (there is no such equivalent on OS/2). I've been connected to the internet and running internet servers for OS/2 since before there was a World Wide Web, and I've yet to get a virus. The Synchronous Input Queque problem was solved ages ago, (not Single Input Queque). It can still topple over, but it's just harder to make it do so and easier to get back on it's feet. One big example that comes to mind is wiping your OS/2 partition and extracting from a backup. Try that with Windows. Oops... I'm rambling. It's late, I'm going to bed. --- ![]() |
| Subject | : | Re:Why do you use OS/2? |
| Author | : | Farq |
| Date | : | 17 Mar, 2006 on 22:13 |
Well, I got that sfix utility now from hobbes anyways. All I need to do now is reconnect my OS/2 hard drive and start the reinstall process(A slight problem disallowed me to access windows while with the OS/2 hard disk, but I'll be fixing that). I'll be sure to put that info onto the site. |