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Subject  :  Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  Kim
Date  :  01 Jul, 2003 on 22:22
Since of lack of time I haven't had the proper time to include all the proper information within the poll, such as author names and companies. But, this will ofcourse be posted. Some of the applications might be rather unknown for some and very know for others, so if you have any good url with more information to any of the applications; please post it here so we can update the poll with the info!

Thanks in advance!


Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  Martin martin@_despam_os2world.com
Date  :  02 Jul, 2003 on 04:07
Some info I got at hand

PMView author is "Peter Nielsen" - Web page www.pmview.com

DFSee Author is " Jan van Wijk" - Web page http://www.dfsee.com/dfsee.htm

Tame/2 Authors "Klaus Staedtler" and "Goran Ivankovic" - web page http://www.os2world.com/goran/tame.htm

Martin


Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  nuke dbsoft@technologist.com
Date  :  03 Jul, 2003 on 02:35
Project Everblue has been developed by a number of people from all over the world. Some of the Major contributors would be:

Antony Curtis (UK)
Sebastian Wittmeier (Germany)
and myself, Brian Smith (USA)

You may just want to list it as from Netlabs.

Thanks.

Brian


Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  inept
Date  :  03 Jul, 2003 on 10:40
In the Annual Award nominee list you have

CDRecord/2
(Chris Wohlgemuth, Germany)

Please notice that CDRecord/2 is actively developed by Nick Lepehin <nickk@nm.ru> as a part of his famous CDRTools/2 port http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-search?key=cdrtools
He continuously compiles new versions, fixes bugs, and makes them available from hobbes (new versions come almost weekly). He spends much his efforts and time to support that ports.
At the same time, Chris Wohlgemuth makes only occasional releases.

So please add Nick Lepehin to the nominee list as well. Mention Chris Wohlgemuth alone is VERY UNFAIR.


Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  dink
Date  :  03 Jul, 2003 on 10:47
I agree with Inept, Nick Lepehin's version of cdrecord/2 is so much better than Chris W's, and Nick is the only one actively maintaining the package.

Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  pw pweilba@gwdg.de
Date  :  03 Jul, 2003 on 11:16
Hi,

as much as I like your awards ceremony, I have to say that I find it highly questionable that you list the WarpVision project which violates the (L)GPL with their WVGUI in your nominees list!

Peter.

P.S.: For ZeroToaster::MTA should you not list Bernd Hohmann as the author?!


Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  dink
Date  :  03 Jul, 2003 on 11:42
WarpVision is the best thing to happen to OS/2 in ages, it definately has my vote!!

Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  pw pweilba@gwdg.de
Date  :  03 Jul, 2003 on 11:52

dink (Jul 03, 2003 12:42):
WarpVision is the best thing to happen to OS/2 in ages, it definately has my vote!!

I didn't say that WV is bad, in fact I very much liked to use it until I discovered that they do not honor the licences of the software they built it on.
But illegitimate software should have no place in OS/2 World award nominess because that would reflect badly on the OS/2 and eCS community!


Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  LightElf lightelf@os2.kiev.ua
Date  :  03 Jul, 2003 on 14:28
Please name GPL project, which is a part of WV...

WV based on the FFMPEG project, which is covered by LGPL.
WV authors actively contribute into FFMPEG (by sending patches and bugfixes). LGPL allow inclusion of covered code into closed-source projects, so where you found any violation?


Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  BigWarpGuy
Date  :  03 Jul, 2003 on 15:15
I did not choose the nominations. These were submitted by people who sent them in. The lists of 5 per group were taken from those that were nominated the most. There was a limit of 5 per group. If you dislike any nomination, vote for the one you do.
BigWarpGuy
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OS/2 Warp-ed to the very end.
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Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  pw pweilba@gwdg.de
Date  :  03 Jul, 2003 on 15:27

LightElf (Jul 03, 2003 15:2:
Please name GPL project, which is a part of WV...

From your own webpage:

"WarpVision uses some code from many different GPL projects, including mplayer (libmpdemux, mp3lib), ffmpeg (extremely fast DivX/MPEG), xine (some stuff for gamma correction), liba52, mpeg2dec (libmpeg2) and Andy Zabolotny's libraries (libdart and libdive)."


Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  dink
Date  :  03 Jul, 2003 on 18:38
dear troll, .. I mean, pw:
the wvcli sources (wvgui is this + pm controls) are available via cvs (see http://os2.kiev.ua).

Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  pw pweilba@gwdg.de
Date  :  03 Jul, 2003 on 19:33
Yes dink, I know that _you_ do not care for licenses...

I don't see any mention of the CVS on the webpage, but I knew this and even have successfully compiled WVCLI from those sources.

But WVGUI is still illegitimately using GPL material by not opening the source. And if WVGUI only contains LGPL sources they still have to distribute the diffs to those sources and the LGPL license as a minimum _with WVGUI_.


Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  vladest vladest@os2.kiev.ua
Date  :  04 Jul, 2003 on 13:09
.are you usually uses licenses or software? it is software nominants, not licenses
And secondarym wvgui is still uses buggiest gpl thing in wjole world - demuxer from mpl. And I will remove it from wv ASAP

Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  pw pweilba@gwdg.de
Date  :  04 Jul, 2003 on 15:50

vladest (Jul 04, 2003 14:09):
.are you usually uses licenses or software? it is software nominants, not licenses

Vlad, I do not mean that you do not deserve to win because your programs are bad. You have done great work with your own programming (porting and combining the various open source projects) as far as I can assess that!
I just say that by allowing your project to be nominated (even worse if it wins) the OS/2 community outs itself to be a bunch of unlawful people. And I do not like that at all!

But I guess we should take further discussion about your licenses somewhere else, to http://www.os2world.com/cgi-bin/ultraboard/UltraBoard.cgi?action=Headlines&BID=20&SID=57252 or comp.os.os2.apps perhaps?


Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  Kim
Date  :  04 Jul, 2003 on 19:22
Thanks for continuing the discussion within a new thread!

/Kim


Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  Kim
Date  :  04 Jul, 2003 on 20:17

nuke (Jul 03, 2003 03:35):
Project Everblue has been developed by a number of people from all over the world. Some of the Major contributors would be:

Antony Curtis (UK)
Sebastian Wittmeier (Germany)
and myself, Brian Smith (USA)

You may just want to list it as from Netlabs.

Thanks.

Brian



Poll is updated with above names.

Thanks!

/Kim


Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  Kim
Date  :  04 Jul, 2003 on 20:21

[b]P.S.: For ZeroToaster::MTA should you not list Bernd Hohmann as the author?!

I've only listed the companies within that category. That that would be enought, but we can get all the names of the coder/authors that would be fine with me to update the poll with full name/s.

/Kim


Subject  :  Re:Info updates for the Final Award Poll
Author  :  pw pweilba@gwdg.de
Date  :  04 Jul, 2003 on 21:34

Kim (Jul 04, 2003 21:21):
I've only listed the companies within that category. That that would be enought, but we can get all the names of the coder/authors that would be fine with me to update the poll with full name/s.

That's OK with me and if Bernd does not complain. Otherwise the page will perhaps be a bit overloaded...


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