| Subject | : | eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Jos pavane@operamail.com |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 01:46 |
| I cannot believe that no-one has asked this question(s), but I have not been abloe to locate anything on the subject. Has anyone heard anything about eCS v2? Jos Joslyn We are what we consistently do, excellence therefore is a habit, not an accident. Aristotle |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | RobertM |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 04:43 |
| It is in progress (and I'd expect there will be some sort of beta, whether limited or to pre-order customers or existing 1.x customers or something, but could only speculate on how the beta program will be run so anything else I leave to Serenity Systems to announce). |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | RobertM |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 04:45 |
| It is in progress (and I'd expect there will be some sort of beta, whether limited or to pre-order customers or existing 1.x customers or something, but could only speculate on how the beta program will be run so anything else I leave to Serenity Systems to announce). |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | melf mikaelelf@os2ug.se |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 08:19 |
| This is what I I've quoted from Serenity about the eCSmedia refresh, and where eCS 2.0 is mentioned: "Should you get this? The GA release of the Media Refresh will be available soon, so you may want to wait for that. Also, if your system is running fine and you have kept up to date with the eComStation Maintenance Tool, there is no immediate need for this update. Please note that this product does *not* contain new features. Soon we will be starting a new beta-program soon for the upcoming 2.0 release of eComStation, which will contain new features and functionality." So it seems to be on its way. |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 17:17 |
Could you tell us what some of those "new features" will be? Are they incrimental updates to existing apps\drivers\etc. or truly new features? --- ![]() |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | melf mikaelelf@os2ug.se |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 21:29 |
| I haven't the faintest idea. I just quoted Serenity. |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 22:35 |
OK then, does anyone else reading this thread, know what any of the new features are going to be in eCS 1.2?
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| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 22:36 |
OK then, does anyone else reading this thread, know what any of the new features are going to be in eCS 1.2?
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| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 22:36 |
OK then, does anyone else reading this thread, know what any of the new features are going to be in eCS 1.2?
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| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 22:37 |
| Holy dogshit! My reply got repeated four times! And it seems that I can't delete them. Anyone here know how to do this? ![]() |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Jos pavane@operamail.com |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 22:49 |
| The new features are for 2.0, not 1.2 which is already out |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 23:10 |
Obvious to anyone reading this thread, is that "1.2" is a typo. So, It goes without saying, that I meant 2.0. ![]() |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Jos pavane@operamail.com |
| Date | : | 18 Oct, 2005 on 23:18 |
| Steady Ben.............. I did actually start the thread |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Pete losepete@ntlworld.com |
| Date | : | 19 Oct, 2005 on 02:55 |
| Hi All I asked about eCS2.0 and managed to get a reply from a Warpstock attendee:-
The timetable shows a number of milestones internal to the project, and a public Beta of eCS 2.0 is planned to Features of Version 2.0 as currently planned: Improved ACPI support, including capturing the Power button (and then offering to power off, suspend, Bootable JFS volumes (JFS operates faster than HPFS, especially on large volumes, so this is useful) Limited ability to resize partitions (including FAT16, FAT32, NTFS and HPFS). The "limit" is that data won't Multi-user - by this I assume being able to use different login IDs and get your own configuration and bit of Integrated SAMBA (I have no further details on this - I attended the SAMBA session and have to admit that I New hardware support as time goes on (AMD 64 bit processors, for example, which are likely to be supported by DHCP client on multiple interfaces (currently DHCP only works on one network interface/card at a time) SSH support It's likely that other things will crop up and be added in - as usual it's a constantly moving target! Anyone with a "Software Subscription" now will be entitled to a free upgrade to Version 2 (even if in theory On another note, a Demo CD of eCS 1.2 is about to be released - you can boot direct from the CD and run eCS There we are - pretty much all I know... I guess the main changes are the multiuser bit - about time too as far as the OS/2 world goes - and the possibility of using a samba client (and server?) for eCS to replace the aging IBM peer networking bit. I did see somewhere that SNAP ENT, Not the cutdown SNAP currently included, is going to be in eCS2 - think it is posted in the eCS newgroups and on ecomstation.com So that is what I know (maybe, all things being subject to change Hope that helps Pete |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Pete losepete@ntlworld.com |
| Date | : | 19 Oct, 2005 on 02:58 |
| Hi All I asked about eCS2.0 and managed to get a reply from a Warpstock attendee:-
The timetable shows a number of milestones internal to the project, and a public Beta of eCS 2.0 is planned to Features of Version 2.0 as currently planned: Improved ACPI support, including capturing the Power button (and then offering to power off, suspend, Bootable JFS volumes (JFS operates faster than HPFS, especially on large volumes, so this is useful) Limited ability to resize partitions (including FAT16, FAT32, NTFS and HPFS). The "limit" is that data won't Multi-user - by this I assume being able to use different login IDs and get your own configuration and bit of Integrated SAMBA (I have no further details on this - I attended the SAMBA session and have to admit that I New hardware support as time goes on (AMD 64 bit processors, for example, which are likely to be supported by DHCP client on multiple interfaces (currently DHCP only works on one network interface/card at a time) SSH support It's likely that other things will crop up and be added in - as usual it's a constantly moving target! Anyone with a "Software Subscription" now will be entitled to a free upgrade to Version 2 (even if in theory On another note, a Demo CD of eCS 1.2 is about to be released - you can boot direct from the CD and run eCS There we are - pretty much all I know... I guess the main changes are the multiuser bit - about time too as far as the OS/2 world goes - and the possibility of using a samba client (and server?) for eCS to replace the aging IBM peer networking bit. I did see somewhere that SNAP ENT, Not the cutdown SNAP currently included, is going to be in eCS2 - think it is posted in the eCS newgroups and on ecomstation.com So that is what I know (maybe, all things being subject to change Hope that helps Pete |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Pete losepete@ntlworld.com |
| Date | : | 19 Oct, 2005 on 03:02 |
| Hi All I asked about eCS2.0 and managed to get a reply from a Warpstock attendee:-
The timetable shows a number of milestones internal to the project, and a public Beta of eCS 2.0 is planned to Features of Version 2.0 as currently planned: Improved ACPI support, including capturing the Power button (and then offering to power off, suspend, Bootable JFS volumes (JFS operates faster than HPFS, especially on large volumes, so this is useful) Limited ability to resize partitions (including FAT16, FAT32, NTFS and HPFS). The "limit" is that data won't Multi-user - by this I assume being able to use different login IDs and get your own configuration and bit of Integrated SAMBA (I have no further details on this - I attended the SAMBA session and have to admit that I New hardware support as time goes on (AMD 64 bit processors, for example, which are likely to be supported by DHCP client on multiple interfaces (currently DHCP only works on one network interface/card at a time) SSH support It's likely that other things will crop up and be added in - as usual it's a constantly moving target! Anyone with a "Software Subscription" now will be entitled to a free upgrade to Version 2 (even if in theory On another note, a Demo CD of eCS 1.2 is about to be released - you can boot direct from the CD and run eCS There we are - pretty much all I know... I guess the main changes are the multiuser bit - about time too as far as the OS/2 world goes - and the possibility of using a samba client (and server?) for eCS to replace the aging IBM peer networking bit. I did see somewhere that SNAP ENT, Not the cutdown SNAP currently included, is going to be in eCS2 - think it is posted in the eCS newgroups and on ecomstation.com So that is what I know (maybe, all things being subject to change Hope that helps Pete |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Pete losepete@ntlworld.com |
| Date | : | 19 Oct, 2005 on 03:16 |
| Hi All I asked about eCS2.0 and managed to get a reply from a Warpstock attendee:-
The timetable shows a number of milestones internal to the project, and a public Beta of eCS 2.0 is planned to Features of Version 2.0 as currently planned: Improved ACPI support, including capturing the Power button (and then offering to power off, suspend, Bootable JFS volumes (JFS operates faster than HPFS, especially on large volumes, so this is useful) Limited ability to resize partitions (including FAT16, FAT32, NTFS and HPFS). The "limit" is that data won't Multi-user - by this I assume being able to use different login IDs and get your own configuration and bit of Integrated SAMBA (I have no further details on this - I attended the SAMBA session and have to admit that I New hardware support as time goes on (AMD 64 bit processors, for example, which are likely to be supported by DHCP client on multiple interfaces (currently DHCP only works on one network interface/card at a time) SSH support It's likely that other things will crop up and be added in - as usual it's a constantly moving target! Anyone with a "Software Subscription" now will be entitled to a free upgrade to Version 2 (even if in theory On another note, a Demo CD of eCS 1.2 is about to be released - you can boot direct from the CD and run eCS There we are - pretty much all I know... I guess the main changes are the multiuser bit - about time too as far as the OS/2 world goes - and the possibility of using a samba client (and server?) for eCS to replace the aging IBM peer networking bit. I did see somewhere that SNAP ENT, Not the cutdown SNAP currently included, is going to be in eCS2 - think it is posted in the eCS newgroups and on ecomstation.com So that is what I know (maybe, all things being subject to change Hope that helps Pete |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 19 Oct, 2005 on 05:28 |
Good info Pete; thanks. ![]() I see you're suffering from the same multi-post problem as I 8( Hopefully os/2world.com will have it fixed soon. Does Samba actually have advantages over OS/2 Peer to Peer? --- ![]() |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Jos pavane@operamail.com |
| Date | : | 19 Oct, 2005 on 16:09 |
| Many Thx Pete, The info was great....... Lets hope that amongst other items they make significant changes to "look & feel". The desktop - whilst always solid - has been looking "dated" for many years. Also improvements on the Wi-Fi scene will help with mobility options. Also if the rumours surrounding an OpenOffice 2.0 license from Serenity are true, that will be a major boost. Jos
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| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Pete losepete@ntlworld.com |
| Date | : | 20 Oct, 2005 on 02:24 |
| Hi All
I sent my response to support and they must have posted it (several times) - maybe my original try also showed up. Anyhow, samba - not my favourite subject at the moment as I have a device using an embedded linux os with a lousy copy of samba in it that does not work with File and Print Client. I do know that the current samba does work with File and Print Client, just waiting for the hardware supplier to update the device firmware. Probably the biggest advantage of samba as a replacement for File and Print Client networking is the fact that it is an ongoing project - when M$ make it difficult to interoperate with WinPCs due to some change in the Win Networking samba gets updated thus ensuring connectivity when required. I do not think we will see IBM updating F&P Client again...
As far as Wi-Fi goes I think that "NDISWrapper for OS/2" is probably (hopefully) the way forward along with win32prn - both projects that plan to use a "wrapper" around current Windows nic and printer (respectively) drivers.
That wrapper is not really specific to Acrobat; I think it has to do a lot of the win32 to os2 api translations - probably with the help of the Innotek Runtime - and is the equivalent of Odin's pe.exe. OO2 will not install using the above as the "installer technology needs updating" according to the installer. It even offers to perform the update but that update fails somewhere... OO115 uses the earlier "installer technology" so I leave you to guess how to use it with ar5os2.exe Pete |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 20 Oct, 2005 on 16:57 |
| I would like to see a new release of Papyrus for OS/2. I know that it may just happen and I'll be sure to buy a copy. BTW... does any know if the new version of Papyrus supports the OO document standard? WRT OO1.1.5, (or 1.1.4 for that matter), using the ar5os2.exe technique leaves one without the ability to print. I know you can export to PDF and print from there, but it sure is a pain. I'd spring the cash for the proper installer, but I just don't find OO as useful as SSuite so it sits on the desktop only for compatibility with my wife's computer... but I sure do love the font enhancement! --- ![]() |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Fahrvenugen |
| Date | : | 20 Oct, 2005 on 18:25 |
| Hi, As far as Samba goes, from what I've heard, there are a few big benefits. Frist, with apparently IBM file/print client, there is a limitation on the file size which can be transfered (4 Gigs I think?) An individual file larger then the limitation will not transfer properly (I havn't tested this myself, but read something about it somewhere). Samba doesn't have this limitation (or if it does have a file size limitation, it is much larger). For most files this isn't a problem, but if you're doing anything with (for example) uncompressed video files, uncompressed audio, etc - the files can get huge pretty quick. Second, the Samba client can see the "long file names" which Windows 95/98/ME generates. IBM File/Print only sees the "shortened" 8.3 filenames coming off such a machine. Also, it used to be true with the older version of Samba/2 (1.9.x) : http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/samba/samba2.html that Samba had a smaller memory footprint then the File/Print sharing, so on machines with lower system resources, this could be useful. I have no idea if this is still the case on the latest version. Also, as mentioned, file/print isn't going to see updates from IBM (the only updates I see potentially happening is *if* a major security issue is found, I could see IBM providing a fix for it... but I don't even see that happening... by now the product has been around long enough that any security issues have likely been already found and fixed). Samba receives frequent updates. |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 20 Oct, 2005 on 20:05 |
I've ran into this limitation with File/Print before. It's a pain.
I'm wondering if File/Print and Samba/2 can co-exist. Given it's advantages over F/P I'm thinking on giving it a try. Anyone know of any caveats? ![]() |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Pete losepete@ntlworld.com |
| Date | : | 20 Oct, 2005 on 21:51 |
Hi Ben
I seem to recall that the last Innotek beta I tried would not print unless it was Registered! - Which set me off looking at how to run OO using Odin or similar (ar5os2.exe). If you have installed OO115 using ar5os2.exe there is no restriction on printing except for those printers which are not well supported, something to do with the omni driver implementation with some printers being much better supported than others. Or maybe you are saying that OO115 cannot print at all? - If that is the case it suggests you have something left over from an Innotek beta install somewhere that prevents printing. I suspect I would be tempted by an Innotek "port" of OO2. As far as font enhancement goes have you tried adding wordpro.exe to the necessary windows registry key using Regedit2? Not being a SS user these days I have not but lots of things seem to work OK with the Innotek font engine - you'll have to check through the readme to discover which registry key to add to, Sorry. Regards Pete |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Ben Dragon |
| Date | : | 20 Oct, 2005 on 23:25 |
That is correct WRT "cannot print at all." I have never installed the innotek OO betas on this machine so that's not a factor. I simply dropped the windows OO on the icon to install. Everything went well and works fine otherwise.
I did that a few times when the Font enhancement came out and recently. The results are unuseable. 8( I'll have to fiddle around with things and do a bit of research on getting the printer to work. The printer works fine with other apps. The Omni drivers do not include my Epson Actionlaser 1500 so that's not an option. The printer is on another eCS machine and accessed via the network... that might have something to do with it. --- ![]() |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Fahrvenugen |
| Date | : | 21 Oct, 2005 on 03:23 |
| What I've found to work well for fonts is a combination of the Innotek Freetype driver, and the older Freetype.dll driver - running as a replacement for IBM's truetype.dll The older Freetype DLL - while it didn't have full anti-aliased fonts, it does offer a better display of truetype fonts then the IBM driver. http://www.freetype.org/ft_os2/index.html I'm not sure if the ZIP is still available on their server there or not. If not, I think it is on Hobbes. |
| Subject | : | Re:eCS v2.x? |
| Author | : | Pete losepete@ntlworld.com |
| Date | : | 22 Oct, 2005 on 16:52 |
Guess you could have the same problem if you did click "Already Registered" during the install. Presumably OO115 sees the shared printer OK? Might be worth running through the Printer Setup bit and making sure that correct driver is in use - no driver level mis-matches between the pcs using this printer? All machines using exactly the same driver release? I suspect that may have been the cause of the Wordpro print problem I had... If I spot any other possible "cures" elsewhere I'll post them here. Regards Pete |