| Kim, good idea - if that would be available, I'd get myself one copy immediately. If you ever experienced the install and setup of all that stuff by hand, you'ld like to have it all prepared in one package (me at least) ! It's rather simple to install that stuff if you're coming from linux than if you're used to OS/2-eCS in my mind. So I would really appreciate a bundled version with quick setup information (or a killer install script)... [*dreaming*] BTW: If it's eCS + Apache + MySQL + PHP and it requires "less efforts" for installation, why not call it eCSAMPLE - Server? [pronounced "example"]  Greetings Thomas |