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Subject  :  OS/2 on an Apple Computer?
Author  :  BigWarpGuy
Date  :  17 Feb, 2006 on 21:32
http://forum.thinkpad.com
They have a section where one person successfully loaded OS-X onto a Thinkpad. The newer Apple OS is made for Intel chipset computers that Apple now has out.

Since Apple has Intel chips in the computers, does this mean one can load OS/2-eCS onto them?


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Subject  :  Re:OS/2 on an Apple Computer?
Author  :  flywheel flywheel@worldonline.dk
Date  :  17 Feb, 2006 on 21:53

BigWarpGuy (17 Feb, 2006 21:32):
http://forum.thinkpad.com
They have a section where one person successfully loaded OS-X onto a Thinkpad. The newer Apple OS is made for Intel chipset computers that Apple now has out.

Since Apple has Intel chips in the computers, does this mean one can load OS/2-eCS onto them?


No, there are severel obsticles - for instance they do not use the old BIOS, but the new Intel EFI - which our favorite operating system lack support of.


Subject  :  Re:OS/2 on an Apple Computer?
Author  :  QHand
Date  :  18 Feb, 2006 on 09:15
Why Windows XP can be installed on the Computer? (From hacker program )

Subject  :  Re:OS/2 on an Apple Computer?
Author  :  flywheel flywheel@worldonline.dk
Date  :  18 Feb, 2006 on 10:48

QHand (18 Feb, 2006 09:15):
Why Windows XP can be installed on the Computer? (From hacker program )

The OSLoader has been hacked/patched (Quick and dirty I guess) - official support will most likely arrive with Vista.


Subject  :  Re:OS/2 on an Apple Computer? - WinXP on an Apple PC?
Author  :  BigWarpGuy
Date  :  19 Mar, 2006 on 22:22
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=winxp+intel+imac&btnG=Google+Search
Links showing WinXP being installed on an Apple computer. If WinXP can be installed, why not eComStation?

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Subject  :  Re:OS/2 on an Apple Computer?
Author  :  Fahrvenugen
Date  :  20 Mar, 2006 on 06:06
It is interesting to read about XP running on an Intel based Mac. Looks like the solution essentially writes a number of drivers that interface between the system and the NT Loader.

I guess my big question is (and the same question can be asked about OS/2 on a MacTel), If I were to spend the premium to get on a Mac (and they are a little more expensive then generic PC's), why would I want to install something *other then* Mac OSX on it? Sure, it might be a geeky fun thing to do, but in my opinion, part of the purpose of buying a Mac is the operating system itself.

Just my thoughts.


Subject  :  Re:OS/2 on an Apple Computer?
Author  :  QHand
Date  :  20 Mar, 2006 on 08:30
The question is that Apple doesn't allow OS X- x86 to be sold separate from the machine itself. If I could buy the OS I would like to install it on a normall PC. On the other hand, people would like to own a Mac Notebook. This is quite the reason.

Subject  :  Re:OS/2 on an Apple Computer?
Author  :  zircon
Date  :  21 Mar, 2006 on 06:30
I have a mac book that I lug with me for video editing purposes. If I could install OS/2 on it I wouldn't need to lug two notebooks.

Subject  :  Re:OS/2 on an Apple Computer?
Author  :  QHand
Date  :  24 Mar, 2006 on 09:11
Any one knows bochs? Which can be used to make EFI booting available. The other things to let Intel-Mac boot eCS/OS2 are to write Mac devices drivers for eCS/OS2. It seems like that. I hope this help. Hackers are needed.

Subject  :  Re:OS/2 on an Apple Computer?
Author  :  Fahrvenugen
Date  :  25 Mar, 2006 on 18:29
As I recall, Bochs is a cross-platform software emulation of a 386/486/pentium computer and bios. While I havn't used it recently, I tried it a number of years ago and was successfully able to get Win95 up and running in it, on an OS/2 machine (although it ran extremely slowly). I've heard (but never tried) that apparently you can run OS/2 under Bochs in VGA mode. I imagine that if Bochs has been ported to Mac OSX, then it should be able to get it running on the Intel version of the Mac, and run OS/2 within Bochs. But the only way to find out for sure is for someone to try this out.

Subject  :  Re:OS/2 on an Apple Computer?
Author  :  QHand
Date  :  26 Mar, 2006 on 12:35
Ok, I find somethings maybe interesting.

Some useful information here:

XP on Mac:
http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Windows_XP_CD_Builder
http://onmac.net/

EFI and OS loader:
http://www.tianocore.org/

Source code here:
http://daemons.net/~clay/OSXP/Guid/


Subject  :  Re:OS/2 on an Apple Computer?
Author  :  Isaac atomic_frogii@yahoo.ca
Date  :  26 Mar, 2006 on 21:07
For all the details, should probably hit Intel's EFI site.
http://developer.intel.com/technology/efi/

In theory, it looks like a full implementation should allow OS/2 to boot, since there is supposed to be a compatiblity mode for legacy OS to boot to BIOS. From Intel's own presentation, it is supposed to be "Compatible by design". However, I think probably one is not forced to implement EFI in entirety. Apple doesn't really have this issue of backward compatibility, since this is the first generation of OS X on x86.

Also, if we could get OS/2 to boot using real EFI, this could be a possible life-saver, if companies implement the full capability of EFI. It appears there is capacity for "modular components" for EFI to access, i.e. device drivers! This is supposed to make it easier on the silicon vendors because you write 1 EFI driver and it will be used across all OS.

Now I for one would love to get OS/2 on a Macbook. Nice machines. I'd be almost as satisfied getting OS X working on a Thinkpad. I think the latter is less likely. EFI "native" OS is supposed to have some advantages, so I'm sure OS X x86 is like this. The early beta versions probably had some special hooks so that developers could run on, say a Dell, before the hardware is ready. Now that the x86 Mac's are out, there's no reason for Apple to support this, so unless we get EFI Thinkpads, Dell or otherwise, I would guess you can't get OS X on it without some really, really serious hacking.


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